• I hate AI!

    From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Thu Dec 18 01:50:56 2025
    Gemini was doing a great job...3 days in to working on decoding some bytecode, things were going pretty well, it was churning out useful stuff then I fed in some some wrong information and hit the stop button.

    You think, oh my bad, let me stop this and feed in the new information.


    NOPE! That stop button might as well have "AMNESIA" written on it. The whole conversation was forgotten. All the previous bytecode we worked on, all that stored knowledge...gone. I spend about 10 minutes trying to get to to remember, to no avail.

    AI is not going to take over the world. It can barely remember its name if you press the right (or wrong) button.

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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to nelgin on Thu Dec 18 15:14:25 2025
    Hey Nelgin!

    On Thu, Dec 18 2025 01:50:56 -0600, you wrote:

    AI is not going to take over the world. It can barely remember its
    name if you press the right (or wrong) button.

    I was messing about with trying to use nano and/or vim as an external editor for Synchronet, without using the "Word wrap quoted text" option.

    I actually had quite a similar first impression with ChatGPT. I wanted to make a bash script that would run on a dropped MSGTMP/EDITOR.INF and would rewrap quoted text into 75 characters per line, while dealing with quote levels and quote characters (adding quote characters to the beginning of the line every time it is re-quoted), etc. Then open the formatted text in nano. I got it to a point where it was /so/ close even.

    Had one bad formatting issue that I had to repeat that the changes it kept making to the script wasn't working, multiple times. After a dozen times of "here is what is now outputted with your changes, notice that the issue isn't fixed", correcting some sed mistakes it kept making (it wasn't escaping certain characters it should have been), etc.

    A few times it told me shit like "Ah yes, you are correct in that <reason>..." and still fucked up the next round. I got to the point I was so annoyed that I scrapped the entire idea, and went back to letting Synchronet do it for me. ;)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.
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  • From deon@VERT/ALTERANT to Accession on Fri Dec 19 09:03:33 2025
    Re: Re: I hate AI!
    By: Accession to nelgin on Thu Dec 18 2025 03:14 pm

    Howdy,

    A few times it told me shit like "Ah yes, you are correct in that <reason>..." and still fucked up the next round. I got to the point I was so annoyed that I scrapped the entire idea, and went back to letting Synchronet do it for me. ;)

    Using chatgpt for coding has never worked for me - although to admit, I only used it once (for the same task I ask multiple other chat AI tools).

    I asked it to write me a PHP objectclass for erasure coding data. It game me a stub, and several iterations I got it to complete the stubs only to find that it never worked.

    Several iterations over the errors, I never got any working code.

    I did the same thing to claude.ai the other day, and after the question, it game me complete code the first time. I cant remember how many lines, but it was 100+

    I then ran it, and it errored (I was expecting it to), and I said, "the code failed to run with an error" (without telling it the error code nor where it errored).

    It can back and said "you are right" and identified the error (correctly) and gave me replacement code which worked. <amazed>

    I then went into discussion as to whether to have parity with the data or seperate and two other approaches to erasure coding (parity and fec) - I just asked it "why this over that" type questions and I was truely impressed. I thought I was talking to an expert.

    Each time it spat out some code (that worked) to highlight the difference as a result of my questions.

    In the end I had code that spat out the two different approaches to erasure coding, with two different implementation (partity blocks or data+parity blocks) - so code that did erasure coded an input 4 ways and gave me 4 outputs - including testing that validated when a block was missing (or corrupt) the data was still recoverable.

    In summary, chatgpt needs more work...


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